tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post115618358326840832..comments2023-07-08T08:12:28.854-04:00Comments on Oh Taste and See: Graduate-Level Problems?Fr. Davidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03489705490983833993noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1157769662216812112006-09-08T22:41:00.000-04:002006-09-08T22:41:00.000-04:00"How would you answer the "Are you born again?" qu..."How would you answer the "Are you born again?" question?"<BR/><BR/>I was born of water and the Spirit at baptism and sealed with the Holy Spirit at chrismation. That act cannot be repeated, but it can be made of no effect.<BR/><BR/>"yet it is fair to point out that Ev doctrine is the only system to hold all the biblical elements in balance: the fear of falling away..."<BR/><BR/>What of those Fr. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03489705490983833993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1157647528622657822006-09-07T12:45:00.000-04:002006-09-07T12:45:00.000-04:00--You have a view of salvation that is much more t...--You have a view of salvation that is much more thorough than many Evangelicals out there.<BR/>>>Thank you. It's b/c I actually listen to people a little more substantive than TBN and "God just loves EVERYone!!!!" sermons. <BR/><BR/>--"Are you saved?"<BR/>>>Yes, that question has been corrupted. The proper biblical understanding of salvation as a whole is the 3 elements I mentioned. <BR/>But Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1157602226323133132006-09-07T00:10:00.000-04:002006-09-07T00:10:00.000-04:00Alan said:"A good way to think of it is this:Justi...Alan said:<BR/><BR/>"A good way to think of it is this:<BR/>Justification - I *have been* rescued from the Penalty of sin.<BR/>Sanctification - I *am being* rescued from the Power of sin.<BR/>Glorification - I *will be* rescued from the Presence of sin."<BR/><BR/>You have a view of salvation that is much more thorough than many Evangelicals out there. On some points, it actually matches up with Fr. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03489705490983833993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1157398048679151642006-09-04T15:27:00.000-04:002006-09-04T15:27:00.000-04:00--All will rise, so all have, in this sense, been ...--All will rise, so all have, in this sense, been redeemed.<BR/>>>Yes, we definitely do have different definitions of "redemption," friend. Doesn't it typically come packaged w/ a, for lack of a better word, positive connotation? Being "redeemed" in the sense of being reunited w/ one's physical body after spending some time in torment in Hades' flames, only to be judged and cast into the lake Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1157237011679486982006-09-02T18:43:00.000-04:002006-09-02T18:43:00.000-04:00A short comment on this discussion: I think perhap...A short comment on this discussion: I think perhaps you two are talking past each other.<BR/><BR/>What is redemption?<BR/><BR/>For the Orthodox, it is a way out of the reality of death and corruption, the possibility of uniting to and being infused with the divine light of God, in spite of our fallenness. All will rise, so all have, <I>in this sense</I>, been redeemed. The difference is that weFr. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03489705490983833993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1157145313118449222006-09-01T17:15:00.000-04:002006-09-01T17:15:00.000-04:00Young Master Pitts,Pleasure to interact witchoo ag...Young Master Pitts,<BR/><BR/>Pleasure to interact witchoo again. <BR/><BR/>--The Orthodox faith does believe that human nature has been renewed and redeemed and such through the Incarnation and, in particular, the death and resurrection of Christ.<BR/>>>Such is not biblical teaching, though. The *possibility* of individuals to be redeemed and justified exists b/c of Christ's atoning death and Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1157077495442652402006-08-31T22:24:00.000-04:002006-08-31T22:24:00.000-04:00Woah...guru, huh? Well, thanks for the cumplido, ...Woah...guru, huh? Well, thanks for the <I>cumplido, compa'</I>...<BR/><BR/>You expressed that brilliantly. Just to finish what you began to say, since it <I>is</I> up to each of us individually to appropriate that renewal and redemption for ourselves, and even though <I>apokatastasis</I> (universal reconciliation) <I>is</I> a very attractive idea, the Church <I>also</I> has stated that, for Fr. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03489705490983833993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1157034116191612772006-08-31T10:21:00.000-04:002006-08-31T10:21:00.000-04:00Alan,The Orthodox faith does believe that human na...Alan,<BR/><BR/>The Orthodox faith does believe that human nature has been renewed and redeemed and such through the Incarnation and, in particular, the death and resurrection of Christ. While we do believe that the Incarnation has cosmic effects on the whole world in ways that we do not entirely understand - how could such a monumental event as God becoming human fail to have a profound effect Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1156948095926589102006-08-30T10:28:00.000-04:002006-08-30T10:28:00.000-04:00Bryan P, just a quick argument. ;-)"Human nature ...Bryan P, just a quick argument. ;-)<BR/><BR/>"Human nature has been renewed and redeemed by the birth, life, death, burial, and resurrection of Christ..."<BR/><BR/>Do you think human nature as such has been redeemed? Is it not those who have faith in Jesus Christ who are redeemed, the others being lost and unredeemed?<BR/><BR/>--ALANRhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1156947625071469372006-08-30T10:20:00.000-04:002006-08-30T10:20:00.000-04:00Bryan, I totally agree. People are people and wil...Bryan, I totally agree. People are people and will always find something to argue about. Human nature has been renewed and redeemed by the birth, life, death, burial, and resurrection of Christ, yet until the end of the age, our perfection has not been completed. Thus, we still do some of those things that imperfect people do, like argue over anything and everything. People like to argue. WeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1156615292146690992006-08-26T14:01:00.000-04:002006-08-26T14:01:00.000-04:00hi David, thanks for the replyI guess what I was g...hi David, thanks for the reply<BR/><BR/>I guess what I was getting at wasn't really about being 'interested' in posting on non-Orthodox or even non-Christian blogs...I think you and others SHOULD post, whether the interest is there or not. Even if one person clicks on your name and checks out your Orthodox blog, well that's good news in my book.<BR/><BR/>I think that's the agenda of many FreeCyprushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06461527729542422549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1156610721180888832006-08-26T12:45:00.000-04:002006-08-26T12:45:00.000-04:00FreeCyprus,Actually, Rhology was commenting on wha...FreeCyprus,<BR/><BR/>Actually, Rhology was commenting on what I wrote, not your comment.<BR/><BR/>As to your comment, I think a lot of folks who put up Orthodox blogs are themselves quite convinced of the truth of Orthodoxy--consequently, non-Orthodox theological blogs are usually of lesser interest to us.<BR/><BR/>As to your site and others like it, which seem more oriented towards politics and Fr. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03489705490983833993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1156601051682859332006-08-26T10:04:00.000-04:002006-08-26T10:04:00.000-04:00Rhology, thanks for the link and it's an interesti...Rhology, thanks for the link and it's an interesting article...but I don't think it really answers my question about why I don't see many Orthodox Christians posting on non-Orthodox sites....FreeCyprushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06461527729542422549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1156537959005351842006-08-25T16:32:00.000-04:002006-08-25T16:32:00.000-04:00You might be interested in checking this article. ...You might be interested in checking this article. It's relevant to what you commented on here.<BR/>Of course, any response you make is just icing on the cake; I just wanted to alert you to it.<BR/>www.centuri0n.blogspot.com , entry on 8.25.2006 entitled "Unity"<BR/>I'm lame and don't know how to link to it. Sorry.Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1156522951392974362006-08-25T12:22:00.000-04:002006-08-25T12:22:00.000-04:00I think that's why Orthodox Christianity is the be...I think that's why Orthodox Christianity is the best kept secret. And we're to blame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10336499.post-1156431796842459262006-08-24T11:03:00.000-04:002006-08-24T11:03:00.000-04:00I noticed something...There are people who post on...I noticed something...<BR/><BR/>There are people who post on my site coming from Muslim, Jewish and other Christian sites...but no one from an Orthodox site...FreeCyprushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06461527729542422549noreply@blogger.com